there's still too much uncertainty, and there needs to be more clarify for the economy to take off. >> a really important point because i think businesses are, you know, shaping up and are currently in great shape in terms of cash on balance sheets. >> terrific. >> so they have the potential to put money to work, although that uncertainty factor is really keeping them from doing so. >> in fact, corporate balance sheets have never been better. liquidity, cash, we've grown 300 billion in core deposits in four years. you know, consumer balance sheets. even though the debt hasn't come down that much because interest rates are so low, the interest carries. the debt service is back to 1998 or 1990 so there's great capacity to invest, to hire, to grow, to buy things, but this uncertainty thing puts a real cloud on things otherwise people would do. they are putting them in abeyance. >> i'm going to get back to that. a real issue. want to get your take on solutions, but you mentioned interest rates and this low interest rate environment. you're putting your bet on growing net interest income.